As a bankruptcy attorney in Jacksonville, Florida, I practice in several areas of debt relief, including foreclosure defense. The following blog is created with the intent of provoking discussion, addressing bankruptcy, Trustees, and the debtors wishing to retain their homes, when the mortgage is upside down.
So do you want to be in bankruptcy? Of
course not. And if you are also having your house foreclosed on, you
certainly don't want that either. So when you go to your local
attorney, you are advised as to whether or not you should file
bankruptcy, and what chapter you can file. You may also be advised
as to whether or not you can keep your house. If you are looking to
discharge you debts through bankruptcy, and upside down on your house
(that is, your 1st mortgage is higher than the value of
the real property), you may find this blog post interesting.
In Florida, there is reportedly a case
where a debtor decided not to claim a homestead exemption on Schedule
C of his bankruptcy paperwork, thereby allowing the debtor to claim a
$4,000 wild card exemption; this is another way of saying the debtor
can get though the bankruptcy and keep an extra $4,000 worth of
property. The Trustee and the mortgagee came up with the bright idea
of paying the Trustee to short sale the house. This would allow the
mortgagee to foreclose on the house in a very efficient and timely
manner, put some money in the Trustee's pocket, and avoid having to
possibly fight a judicial foreclosure.
The problem with this lies with the
duties of the Trustee, as the duties outlined in the bankruptcy code
do not include the trustee acting as a foreclosure attorney. Another
problem lies with the property itself. If there is no equity, is the
property a bankruptcy asset. There is a very strong argument that
can be made that the property, with no equity, is not an asset of the
bankruptcy estate.
UPDATE: The practice of at least one of the Trustees in the Jacksonville Division is to ask the bank to pay him to short sale the property. This is possible if 1) the debtor does not claim the property as exempt homestead property, and 2) the bank agrees. If you are filing the the Jacksonville Division, make sure you get the advise of an attorney before choosing to NOT claim your property as homestead.
UPDATE: The practice of at least one of the Trustees in the Jacksonville Division is to ask the bank to pay him to short sale the property. This is possible if 1) the debtor does not claim the property as exempt homestead property, and 2) the bank agrees. If you are filing the the Jacksonville Division, make sure you get the advise of an attorney before choosing to NOT claim your property as homestead.
A second case in Florida deals with the
Trustee deciding to tell a debtor to get out of their house when the
house is not claimed as exempt. Under the bankruptcy code, a trustee
either has to administer the asset or abandon it. If the debtor
simply moved out of the property, the debtor may be subject to fines
and penalties for not maintaining the house. These fines and
penalties would not be discharged in the bankruptcy because they
occurred post petition. Of course, we still have the problem of
whether or not the property is even property of the bankruptcy estate
to begin with.
A third case deals with the trustee
charging the debtor rent to stay in the house. That's right! The
problem here is to some extent obvious; that's right, the house may
not be a bankruptcy trust asset to begin with. But something you may
not have though of is, does the Trustee really want to be a
landlord, that is, they would be responsible to maintaining the
property. As far as I know, the typical Trustee does not want to
deal with landlord type problems; you know, the faucet leaks, the
plumbing is stopped up, the grass need mowing, etc. It is also my
understanding, in some jurisdictions, a landlord, or in this case
perhaps a property manager, would need to be licensed by the state.
Should a Trustee be able to take a
house with no equity? To what extent does the bankruptcy code
require the trustee to maintain the asset? If you have any thoughts
of enlightenment on this issue, please let me know below.
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Home
is Where the Heart Is San Francisco Bankruptcy Attorney, Jeena
Cho
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Eranthe
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Springs Bankruptcy Lawyer Bob Doig
Honest
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Area Bankruptcy Lawyer, Bill Balena
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California Bankruptcy Lawyer, Cathy Moran
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